| returns uh within 12 to 18 months uh lee | 6.56 | Jump to 61.68 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | hey today is our first beyond the expert | 4.079 | Jump to 90.0 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 2022 | 3.36 | Jump to 92.56 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | two things we want to talk about is | 4.879 | Jump to 95.92 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | worthwhile discussion but first | 5.201 | Jump to 113.759 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | october 21 uh an online personality in | 5.6 | Jump to 131.68 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | sold 1.7 billion dollars of beauty | 4.48 | Jump to 137.28 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        1.7 billion dollars
                      
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                  | in a 12 hour live show all right so that | 6.24 | Jump to 143.92 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | first and and what are you thinking uh | 5.441 | Jump to 166.239 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | there was over seven billion dollars | 5.12 | Jump to 286.72 | 
                      
                        
                      
                        MONEY
                      
                      
                        seven billion dollars
                      
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                  | there was 180 i think 180 billion | 4.72 | Jump to 306.479 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | actually i think it was 300 billion | 4.641 | Jump to 313.199 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 5 300 but by the way it's a massive | 4.48 | Jump to 317.84 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | possibly you know 400 to 500 plus | 5.679 | Jump to 324.08 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | billion dollars this year just in china | 5.44 | Jump to 326.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 100 billion valuation plus | 5.84 | Jump to 346.56 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | china um ooh is one of those uh i think | 4.0 | Jump to 368.96 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | to that in a second but yeah they're | 2.8 | Jump to 388.16 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | think 15 percent to 27 or 28 or | 5.919 | Jump to 416.56 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | something like that in the next four or | 4.961 | Jump to 419.919 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | five years and that number is massive | 4.16 | Jump to 422.479 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | you know look at a third of our shopping | 4.159 | Jump to 424.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | capture as much of that 30 percent they | 3.28 | Jump to 440.319 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | thought about e-commerce when in web 1.0 | 6.16 | Jump to 460.4 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | evolved in web 2 point in web 2.0 where | 4.24 | Jump to 468.56 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | called it a you know a billion dollar | 4.719 | Jump to 568.8 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | evaluation in 24 months now | 5.281 | Jump to 570.399 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | it's a 50 million valuation today so | 4.241 | Jump to 573.519 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | but i always look for third party | 4.081 | Jump to 721.519 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | third-party validation which comes with | 3.68 | Jump to 736.0 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | validation i think you've got another 45 | 4.24 | Jump to 764.24 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | million homes for italy that's yeah | 5.281 | Jump to 766.079 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | walmart did its very first live shopping | 4.081 | Jump to 804.399 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | you know one-off live shopping | 3.12 | Jump to 817.519 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | so you know you talk about third-party | 3.121 | Jump to 822.639 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 18 months from now even at 12 months so | 4.64 | Jump to 878.8 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | here we are the you know february 2022 | 4.64 | Jump to 881.04 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | let's talk about december 2023 where do | 5.04 | Jump to 883.44 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | look like in 18 months | 4.399 | Jump to 920.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | as it stands right now being a 50 or 60 | 3.76 | Jump to 995.759 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | million market cap | 3.521 | Jump to 997.839 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | in 18 months time if | 3.521 | Jump to 1003.519 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | know at least you know four or five x | 4.959 | Jump to 1013.68 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | from here in 18 months time | 4.32 | Jump to 1016.24 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | fact that there are 300 000 downloads of | 5.6 | Jump to 1022.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | i saw it first | 3.679 | Jump to 1046.0 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 12 year olds all the way up to you know | 4.8 | Jump to 1057.44 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | least to say i did one live video | 4.64 | Jump to 1133.039 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 20 000 square foot | 4.801 | Jump to 1146.559 | 
                      
                        
                      
                        QUANTITY
                      
                      
                        20 000 square foot
                      
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                  | um studio 30 000 30 000 square foot in | 5.84 | Jump to 1148.4 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        000 30 000 square foot
                      
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                  | six months on another one of our shows | 4.0 | Jump to 1173.12 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | in the last six months it's almost like | 4.079 | Jump to 1226.96 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | it look i've been this for 25 years i've | 4.56 | Jump to 1240.4 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | markets the last six months | 4.08 | Jump to 1253.52 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | in 2022 | 5.68 | Jump to 1257.6 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | for forty dollars and selling them in | 3.6 | Jump to 1325.84 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | december for four hundred thousand | 3.281 | Jump to 1327.919 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        four hundred thousand
                      
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                  | one uh i think i don't think it's done i | 5.4 | Jump to 1353.44 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | think about march two years ago it was | 5.92 | Jump to 1371.36 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | sent one this morning that was | 4.32 | Jump to 1408.32 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | you could have bought amazon in 19 or | 4.08 | Jump to 1455.52 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | google in 1990 and of course you'd be | 4.24 | Jump to 1457.52 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | going to wait 30 years and i guess | 3.84 | Jump to 1461.76 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | gone through a bit of a wash last six | 4.88 | Jump to 1524.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | months draftking is down 55 percent | 4.561 | Jump to 1527.039 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | penned down 33 | 4.64 | Jump to 1529.76 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | esports entertainment group down 66 | 5.52 | Jump to 1531.6 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | and fans unite down 38 i bring up those | 5.6 | Jump to 1534.4 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | one of the things that i've certainly um | 5.921 | Jump to 1554.159 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 23 price target on them and they're | 5.441 | Jump to 1622.799 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | pretty much fully priced in now 22 bucks | 4.72 | Jump to 1625.12 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | great one on your | 5.12 | Jump to 1641.36 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | it's trading at three dollars | 4.08 | Jump to 1648.64 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | has just re-upped their 22 dollar price | 4.401 | Jump to 1650.559 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | yeah mbl's got you know close to seven x | 6.319 | Jump to 1654.96 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | eight x seventy seven point five x from | 4.96 | Jump to 1658.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | sub billion market cap entities | 3.76 | Jump to 1673.44 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | i mean i think it's a good 30 years of | 4.561 | Jump to 1680.399 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | know gmbl is a is a good one where they | 5.36 | Jump to 1744.72 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 100 million in revenue for 2022. yeah | 5.44 | Jump to 1757.2 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | because even if you got a four times | 3.84 | Jump to 1762.64 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | four to five hundred million dollar | 3.679 | Jump to 1766.48 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        four to five hundred million dollar
                      
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                  | able to raise 15 million dollars uh in | 3.919 | Jump to 1820.48 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 2021 | 2.399 | Jump to 1822.88 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | the company in december of 2020 | 4.76 | Jump to 1828.0 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | had 12 000 in the bank and was a | 6.0 | Jump to 1832.799 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 1.5 million market cap okay | 5.44 | Jump to 1835.76 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | in numbers that's in five years of | 4.799 | Jump to 1926.0 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 100 plus million in betting handle last | 4.24 | Jump to 1940.48 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        100 plus million
                      
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                  | is sitting at a 30 million market cap | 5.12 | Jump to 1956.08 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | and apple went from 700 down to 315 | 7.361 | Jump to 2061.599 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | dollars you know back in uh 2013 | 5.52 | Jump to 2065.2 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | 1000 | 4.32 | Jump to 2086.24 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | acquisition of american affiliate for 58 | 3.12 | Jump to 2110.64 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | million | 4.08 | Jump to 2112.64 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | gonna do about 13 million dollar revenue | 4.8 | Jump to 2116.72 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        about 13 million dollar
                      
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                  | six million dollar ebitda and projected | 5.279 | Jump to 2118.56 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | this year in 2022 to do 20 million | 3.839 | Jump to 2121.52 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | and 7 million uh in ibida so they and | 6.0 | Jump to 2125.359 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | that's just one one aspect of their | 6.08 | Jump to 2128.64 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | category no one's really run away with | 3.28 | Jump to 2219.76 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | it you haven't had those two big three | 3.681 | Jump to 2221.599 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | three of them that's for sure yeah and | 3.6 | Jump to 2241.28 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | through their three or four or five | 2.96 | Jump to 2278.0 | 
                      
                        
                      
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                        three or four or five
                      
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                  | blizzard for what 70 billion yeah so | 3.76 | Jump to 2302.8 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | we've been on here for just under 40 | 4.4 | Jump to 2331.76 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | minutes so we could talk for another 40 | 5.04 | Jump to 2334.079 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | again on a regular schedule every two to | 3.121 | Jump to 2339.119 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | three weeks keep talking about new | 2.96 | Jump to 2341.04 |  |  | 
              
                
                  | today with ooh so on the one hand a lot | 3.52 | Jump to 2346.4 |  |  |